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Some game design changes Crafting

After releasing the patch 1.31 on german markets we figured out that we have to make some changes to the crafting system.

1. The cooldown of all useable products will be reduced to 10 minutes (written before)

2. We will reduce the difficult of the starting recipes that means you will need less products to craft the start items until a skill value of 100

3. We want to add some more start recipes which will build an own chain for example: You do a job to get leather after you found one leather you will be able to craft it to “better” leather. This “better” leather can be used to create “much better” leather with “much better” leather you will be able to create an item to use. As you can see with that chain you will be able to find just one leather and craft 4 times. (These chains are planned for every profession until a skill value of 25 or something like that).

Changes in crafting frontend:

I have made some changes to crafting frontend. First i converted it to the new screen layout. Second you will have a better overview about what products you need and which you already have.

56 Comments

  1. aliebaba
    aliebaba May 17, 2011

    HMm, looks better by this patch, good thing πŸ™‚

  2. Bluep
    Bluep May 17, 2011

    Ahh, rainy, you’re a lucky guy – because I’m a (straight ^^) guy too, otherwise I’d ask you to marry me! πŸ˜€

    Thanks – sounds & looks great!
    And tells us we can continue to make suggestions, the gods of code are answering [at least some] of our prayers πŸ˜‰

  3. John Sibley
    John Sibley May 17, 2011

    Love it.

  4. abedy
    abedy May 17, 2011

    Nice done guys. May I ask how is English translation progressing on Beta?, cheers

  5. rainy
    rainy May 17, 2011

    they already started with translations i think they will be finished next week

  6. JoxerTM
    JoxerTM May 17, 2011

    making a much better better leather… rainy, will it be added as a minor fix of 1.31, or we’ll have to wait 1.32 for that one?

  7. Joao611
    Joao611 May 17, 2011

    I like that πŸ™‚

  8. rainy
    rainy May 17, 2011

    @JoxerTM
    It will be a hotfix in 1.31 on german market it is already released also on beta but there still some recipes missing.
    For all of you who waiting for your market i heard that the translations as far as i know in english are much earlier done than next week so maybe we can update some markets end of this week to 1.31

  9. CALLlKA
    CALLlKA May 17, 2011

    rainy, What about my question??

  10. the black penny
    the black penny May 17, 2011

    BAR BRAWL !

  11. JoxerTM
    JoxerTM May 18, 2011

    rainy, you absolutely rock! πŸ™‚
    thanks man.

  12. Hi Devs!

    Nice post πŸ˜‰

    Did you think about my proposal of change character class? And what?

    Waiting for an answer…
    Good Luck πŸ˜‰

  13. turtle tosser
    turtle tosser May 22, 2011

    I discovered something on the west db the other day, apparently you won’t be able to craft easy stuff anymore once you’ve passed a certain amount of skill points?

    I only have 15 skill points in my current craft, but when I reach 100 skill points, the site says I won’t be able to craft the first 4 items…

    Or did I totally misunderstood that?

  14. Bluep
    Bluep May 22, 2011

    You’re still able to craft them – but you don’t get a crafting skill point anymore.

  15. turtle tosser
    turtle tosser May 22, 2011

    Bluep :
    You’re still able to craft them – but you don’t get a crafting skill point anymore.

    ok, thanks for the info πŸ™‚

  16. caveman burt
    caveman burt May 23, 2011

    will we be able to sell multible thing like grain and other inggridiens in the future

  17. Bluep
    Bluep May 24, 2011

    Future? Back to the future!! πŸ˜€
    It was already possible on Amchitka v1.30, but due to some flaws it was removed before 1.30 hit Alamogordo…

    I’d love to see it back, too!

  18. classius
    classius May 26, 2011

    At the next update, I would love to see an easy way to delete telegrams.

  19. Bullet
    Bullet May 29, 2011

    Will the new town graphical pack be included in the next patch ?

  20. Bullet
    Bullet May 29, 2011

    Also, I experience a unrealistic problem related to crafting. Everytime I have to make a Knife one Hammer is lost. Normally, it shouldn’t be lost because it’s a tool not a resource. Please note this suggestion.

  21. classius
    classius May 30, 2011

    @Bullet
    Problems in finding hammers?

  22. turtle tosser
    turtle tosser May 30, 2011

    Bullet :
    Also, I experience a unrealistic problem related to crafting. Everytime I have to make a Knife one Hammer is lost. Normally, it shouldn’t be lost because it’s a tool not a resource. Please note this suggestion.

    A hammer is a resource. You can find it with a job, just like wood, molten iron and granite blocks.

  23. Bullet
    Bullet May 30, 2011

    Let’s turn the problem on the other side. For example you want to make a simple chair (in real life). You need some wood, nails, a saw and a hammer. Normally, you would “waste” your resources to make it (wood and nail), but the tools, used to build it (saw and hammer) will remain, so you can make other things with the same tools next time. Now you got the idea ?

  24. Bullet
    Bullet May 30, 2011

    In game, the tools are counted as resources (and I got experience, don’t try to explain me basic things) but it’s ridiculous, because…well I explained in the post above. Sadly the game engine/concept makes no difference betwees resources and tools.

  25. classius
    classius May 30, 2011

    Ok, the west is no real life. And a hammer can be damaged while you’re doing things with it.

  26. Bullet
    Bullet May 31, 2011

    It should have an expire date then. The west is supporsed to simulate the life in the Old west, no ?

  27. classius
    classius May 31, 2011

    It’s supposed to simulate only the wild west, not the reality. And I hate those people who only now realize the west doesn’t simulate the real life.
    Take some examples:
    Why do duels have precisely 8 rounds, in real life they could end from the first shot, but never had a precise amount of time.
    Why are some clothes so expensive when in real life they would cost only a few hundreds $ at the most?

    The west = no real life. Deal with it!

  28. the black penny
    the black penny June 1, 2011

    unless you live in my house, tools always go missing,,,,food, money, whole items and clothes too.
    left sock, keys, and even cd,s
    must be the tooth fairy.

    in truth, i do see a hammer as a tool and not a resource, a minor mistake , angle of looking at things that can be over looked.

    funny enough, found my gran dads tools to make tools, yup.
    tools that make other tools,
    they are the oddest looking lumps of metal, measurement drills and sorts.

    the west should have a real life feel to it, but with a better community building program/system/set up/platform/

    ps, i would like to have a few words with the marketing department.(in the form of hand gestures)

  29. classius
    classius June 4, 2011

    Yeah, it gets quite boring.

  30. the black penny
    the black penny June 5, 2011

    gonna be a few weeks to months of bug hunt im guessing.

  31. cedricsilva
    cedricsilva June 6, 2011

    @classius

    classius :
    It’s supposed to simulate only the wild west, not the reality. And I hate those people who only now realize the west doesn’t simulate the real life.
    Take some examples:
    Why do duels have precisely 8 rounds, in real life they could end from the first shot, but never had a precise amount of time.
    Why are some clothes so expensive when in real life they would cost only a few hundreds $ at the most?
    The west = no real life. Deal with it!

    yay you cant be more right on this :P, why someone never try make a game like rela life? simple, Real life is mostly boring, too many thinkg to do , obligations, …. boring at the end only few times Real life can give you nice things soo why we never see a game like real life? because would be a FAIL hehe soo The west dont give reality at 100% gives us what we like from real life, thats all, litle think to do that are funny and thats all

    By the way NICE HOLIDAYS DEVS

  32. Gosialein
    Gosialein June 9, 2011

    hey, devs, summer vacation’s not yet begun, you guys don’t share anyyhing recenly, why so?

  33. classius
    classius June 11, 2011

    Nearly a month passed and still no post.

  34. turtle tosser
    turtle tosser June 15, 2011

    New posts please…

  35. aliebaba
    aliebaba June 15, 2011

    yeah indeed, we are still waiting, ho long anymore ???

  36. JoxerTM
    JoxerTM June 15, 2011

    ppl please, check what changes are planned for the update 1.32, it’s not some quickfix. those are major changes that need some huge work, so patience is needed.

  37. aliebaba
    aliebaba June 15, 2011

    noo indeed, but some shows are a lot better dan nothing ;D

  38. JoxerTM
    JoxerTM June 16, 2011

    well, for starters you might check thewest on facebook, they removed the dangerous lady duelist and put that pathetic excuse of the male duelist wannabe instead (the one from the splash screen, hehe). πŸ˜‰

  39. classius
    classius June 23, 2011

    At least a small update on what you are working.

  40. aliebaba
    aliebaba June 23, 2011

    yeah indeed, or say that you have technical problems with something but please post SOMETHING

  41. John Sibley
    John Sibley June 24, 2011

    anything???

  42. the black penny
    the black penny June 25, 2011

    HEY CLOUD PEOPLE UP THERE !

    throw us a bone or something , or we are gonna start hurting cute little animals.
    and they will you know…
    they mean down here, so mean that they dont wear sunscreen kinda mean.
    all red faced and stressed sorta mean
    and will start hurting cute fuzzy animals if you dont post something.

  43. Juan
    Juan July 1, 2011

    Hi! Since I have got an account of Google+ I cannot login The-West with OpenID. Can you fix it? I haven’t username to login I ever login with OpenID.
    Thanks

  44. classius
    classius July 1, 2011

    We are still waiting for a post explaining at least what you are working on.

  45. i am the next update
    i am the next update July 2, 2011

    i am the next update.

    classius, they are working on BUGS.

    you can borrow my bug killer spray if you(dev) want. i will charge 0 nuggets.

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